10-0812_CC_Minutes_Adjourned Regular MeetingMINUTES
August 12, 2010
SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CITY COUNCIL
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
Mayor Uso called the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the San Juan Capistrano
City Council to order at 5:05 p.m. in the City Council Chamber. Council Member Hribar
led the Pledge of Allegiance
ROLL CALL
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Sam Allevato, Tom Hribar, Mark Nielsen,
Mayor pro tem Laura Freese and Mayor Dr. Londres Uso
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: None
Council Member Allevato asked that the City Council dedicate the upcoming meeting of
August 17, 2010, to the late Sergeant Jose L. Saenz III, who was killed in combat in
Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 1St Marine Division, 1St Battalion, 11th Marine at
Camp Pendleton. The 1/11 is the adopted unit of the City.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
• Erin Kutnick, City resident, presented to the Council and the audience the pavers
that would be for sale for the City's 50th Year Anniversary.
PUBLIC HEARING:
C1. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT (GPA) 07-01, REZONE (RZ) 07-01,
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP (TTM) 17280, ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL (AC)
07-14, GRADING PLAN MODIFICATION (GPM) 07-01; AND DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT FOR DISTRITO LA NOVIA-SAN JUAN MEADOWS,
CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 6, 2010 AT 5:00 P.M. (460.20/440.20/420.40)
Public Correspondence:
The following individuals submitted written correspondence in support of
the project:.Carole Matson, City resident; Sara Shelton, City resident; Ginger
Modiri, City resident; Elliott Levenson, City resident; Christine Kirkland, City
resident; Erin Kutnick, City resident; Ginny Kerr, City resident;
Public Correspondence:
The following individuals submitted written correspondence in opposition
to the project: Karl B. Andrews, City resident; Harold and Eva Haight, City
resident; Cathleen Garite, City resident; Marly Peel, City resident; Jim Elder, City
resident; Mitchel J. Wise, City resident; Paul A. Brennan, Esq., City resident;
Nelloise Blue, City resident; Phyllis Detmer, City resident; James Bevill, City
resident; David Siu, City resident; Sherrie L. Summers, City resident; Rudi Gern,
City resident; Bonnie Ryan, City resident; Willard P. Webster, City resident; Dan
Dague, City resident; Roy Ackermann, City resident; Richard Van Valkenburg,
City resident; Sandra Crowder, City resident; Robert Cushman, City resident;
Barbara Ferguson, City resident; Robert and Marguerite Nietzel, City residents;
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Tom Moulton, City resident; Gordon Stefenhagen, City resident; Ed and Edie
Ryan, City residents; Mark and Evelyn Logan, City residents; Alison Bly Stein,
City resident; Richard Stein, City resident; Richard and Janette Toma, City
residents; Pat Kondan-Davis, City resident; Nancy Knittle, City resident; Duaine
Discher, City resident; Terry L. Davis, City resident; Richard S. Loverde, City
resident; Sydne Hunter, City resident; Gerald Ehle, City resident; P. Herman, City
resident; Ronald and Joan Malanosky, City residents; Marsha Norman, City
resident; Sally Garibaldi Rather, City resident; Judith Clemens, City resident;
Henry Rodriguez, City resident; Jack Stavana, City resident; Mary Ellen Gregory,
City resident; Harold Nickelsberg, City resident; Lynn and Reinhard Metzger, City
residents; Janet Holtz, City resident; Cecelia Luna, City resident; Jeff Eginton,
City resident; John Slumpff, City resident; Scott Clark, City resident; Gary
Plumley, City resident; John and Yvonne Morrison, City resident; Hans and
Joyce Meyer, City residents; Walter and Sandra Moeller, City resident; William
Falls, City resident; Louise Labushevicz, City resident; Betty Hill, City resident;
Michael Johnsen, City resident; Margaret A. Mahoney, City resident; Judy
Jemmings, City resident; Nancy Bevill, City resident; Gene Gerdes and Lisa
Bowles, City residents; William Salina, City resident; Edna L. Sanchez, City
resident; Donald Titus, City resident; Phiroze S. and Marilyn F. DeVitre, City
residents; Dean A. and Marjorie E. Porter, City residents; Barbara Blair, City
resident; Sally Masters, City resident; Don and Kathie Smedley, City residents; A.
Diane Askew, City resident; Roxwell and Judith Hafdahl, City resident; L Crowda,
City resident; June Smith, City resident; Shirley and Paul Snyder, City resident;
Bob Scott, City resident; Roberta Felix, City resident; Charles L. Dow, City
resident; Arthur and Peggy Jones, City residents; Don. Anzalone, City resident;
Mrs. Don Doll, City resident; Robert Korb, City resident; Jim and Judi Halverson,
City residents; Helen P. Noon, City resident; John `Jack' and Carol Chestek, City
resident; Yvonne Tschaikowsky, City resident; Winifred Cummings, City resident;
Donna Orr, City resident; Jess Lopez, City resident; Darren Straka, City resident;
David Weaver and Nannette Yount, City residents; Sharon Ilg, City resident;
Allan Fleisher, City resident; Jo Anne and Paul King, City residents; Peter Wyl,
City resident; Maria Kasusuky Salazar; City resident; Carol Caddes, City
resident; Nancy Sharp, City resident; Terry Blair, City resident; Richard and
Sandra Smith, City residents; Ronald G. Feezor, City resident; Marianna
Condon, City resident; Linda Haimes, City resident; Donald H. Haimes, City
resident; Jane and Bill Tower, City resident; Daisy Blanchard, City resident; Linda
Bell, City resident; Michelle Fiore, City resident; Sharon Dunn, City resident;
Marjorie Dysinger-Berry, City resident; Marie J. Doss, City resident; JoAnn
DeYonker, City resident; Ernest E. and Stella Mc Callick, City residents.
William A. Ramsey, Principal Planner, provided a PowerPoint presentation and
responded to questions. Rich Barretto, Linscott Law & Greenspan, presented a
simulation Traffic Analysis, and responded to questions. y
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Presentation of the proposed development by members of the development team
who contributed a power point presentation with the project background
overview, and traffic mitigations; and responded to questions from the
City Council:
• Rick Julian, Advanced Group 99 -SJ
• Robb Cerruti, Advanced Real Estate Services
• Paul Fulbright, Architect
• Marion Suket, Suket Construction
• Doug Staley, Hunsaker & Associates
• James Kawamura, KHR Associates
Mayor Uso opened the public hearing and invited testimony.
Public Testimony:
The following individuals spoke in support of the project: Richard Hill
Adams, City resident; Terry F. Parker, City resident; Erin Kutnick, City resident;
Father Joseph Smith, City resident; Monique Ren, City resident; John Sherritt,
Carlsbad resident, Julie Ryan Johnson, City resident; Debi Kellerman, City
resident; Travis Dunn, City resident
The following individuals submitted a "Request to Speak" cards in support
of the project: Annette Stark, City resident; Duane Soper, City resident; Kathy
Holman, City resident; Ginny Kerr, City resident; Marilyn Mansfield, City resident;
Allan Collard, City resident; Charlotte Cerruti, City resident; Jodi Cerruti, City
resident; Michelle Sukut, City resident
The following individuals spoke in opposition to the project: Derek Reeve,
City resident; Matthew O'Malley, City resident; Esther Walker, City resident; Ira
Rosenbaum, City resident; Sally Garibaldi Rather, City resident; David Shouse,
City resident; Rob Clyde, City resident Lynn Williams, City Resident (submitted a
signed petition); Trevor Dale, City resident; Yvonne Tschaikowsky, City resident
(submitted a handout); John Perry, City resident; Maryann Pette, City resident;
Hilary Schneider, City resident; Michael Rosenberger, City resident; Ken
Williams, .City resident; Jim Reardon, City resident; Josh Singer, City resident;
Jess Lopez, City resident; Sally Garibaldi Rather, City resident; Mike Johnson,
City resident; Clint Worthington, City resident;
The following individuals submitted a "Request to Speak" cards in
opposition to the project: William Detmer, City resident; Richard Fentiman, City
resident; Ray Haney, City resident; Francisco Cabrera, City resident; Jean E.
Parman, City resident; Martina Gregory, City resident; Frank. Uddo, City resident;
Vivian Hollas, City resident; Faith Hope Bigler, City resident; S. Pentoney, City
resident; Marjorie Pentoney, City resident; Karen Penkova, City resident; Donald
S. Fowler, City resident; Phyllis Detmer, City resident; Karen Fowler, City
resident; Barbara Jay, City resident; Ruth E. Willett, City resident; Susan Arones,
City resident; Jim Halverson, City resident; Patricia Spiess, City resident; Caralyn
Schneider, City resident; Vick Johnson, City resident.
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Council Comments:
• Project already approved for a high density residential project, the only
difference is adding the stables; City has not received complaints regarding
current City stables that are adjacent to residential areas; felt that the stable
mitigation program is thoughtful; landfill impacts and mitigation is routine
across the State; current approved project would create greater traffic
impacts compared to the new proposed project; Community Redevelopment
Agency funds are intended for blight removal, and not to assist developers;
preference in not accepting dedication of open space on the landfill.
• Stated that water shortage should not be used as an excuse not to develop;
preference in the project having four (4) separate parcels, with possible
reduction in the condominiums; traffic should be the last reason not to
approve the project, the proposed project would create less impact than the
previous approved project; did not have an issue with the landfill; preference
in not accepting dedication of Open Space; Homeowners Association should
take care of the maintenance; preference in having a reduction in horses to
400-500; and proposed project needs to show a 5% - 7% reduction in traffic.
• Preference in reducing the number of horses, and have a phase-in plan; felt
that traffic can be mitigated; preference in not widening Valle Road to 94ft.
which forces project to have a large retaining wall, if project requires a
retaining wall, it should be 12ft., or preference in not having a retaining wall
at all; project density can be reduced, which will reduce traffic; office space
can be reduced and. preference in leaving the office area open for other
uses, like a Boutique Hotel; preference in not reducing the retail area;
comfortable with landfill mitigations; State and Local Agencies will monitor
the project in regard to water quality, air quality, flies, manure, etc.;
misinformation is hurting the project; General Plan needs to be flexible; traffic
needs to be mitigated properly; and need to protect the mobilehome park
residents.
• Not the best decision to have only residential development on the Meadows
property, it costs the City more in the long term to provide services and
infrastructure; the alternative to leave the landfill alone is not viable or
realistic, the property owner is entitled to develop the already approved 440
homes, the alternative proposed is less disruptive on the Meadows side; the
Distrito La Novia component can provide needed revenue to -the City, as
9.1 acres falls in the Redevelopment Agency boundary which would provide
60% of the property tax; traffic impact needs to be less than the previous
project; applicant might want to consider meeting with concerned citizens to
help adjust the project in order to mitigate issues brought up; need to reduce
the number of horses, and look into properly mitigating the impacts; and
need to reduce the retaining wall and width of Valle Road.
• Preference in phasing the equestrian, and limiting the number of horses .to
around 500; preference in not reducing retail; office space and
condominiums can be reduced; and expressed importance in looking into the
future financial stability of the City.
• Consensus to continue the public hearing to a stand-alone meeting on
October 6, 2010, at 5:00 P.M.
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Council Action: Moved by Council Member Nielsen, seconded by
Council Member Hribar, and carried unanimously to continue the public hearing
to October 6, 2010, at 5:00 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Uso adjourned the City Council meeting at 10:36 p.m. to
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 at 5:30 p.m. for Closed Session; and then 6:30 p.m. for the
public Business Session, in the City Council Chamber.
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DR. LONDR�• USO, MAYOR
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