74-1203_CC_Minutes_Adjourned Regular MeetingDECEMBER 3, 1974
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO
The Adjourned Regular Meeting of the City Council was called to
order by Mayor Byrnes at 7:02 P.M. in the City Council Chamber.
ROLL CALL: COUNCILMEN PRESENT:
COUNCILMEN ABSENT
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Roy L. Byrnes, Mayor
James K. Weathers, Mayor pro tem
Councilman Yvon O. Heckscher
Councilman Douglas B. Nash
Councilman John B. Sweeney, who
joined the meeting at 7:05 P.M.
None
STAFF PRESENT: John O'Sullivan, Interim City Manager/Director of
Administrative Services; George Madsen, Sr. Project Engineer;
William Murphy, Public Works Director/City Engineer; David Smith,
Director of Planning; Carl Neuhausen and Ed Haworth, Planning
Consultants; James Okazaki, City Attorney; Mary Ann Hanover, City
Clerk.
PUBLIC HEARING - SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO GENERAL PLAN (CONTINUATION)
Notice having been given as required by law, Mayor Byrnes declared
the Public Hearing re -opened.
Council received copies of a report dated November 25, 1974, from
the Director of Planning which compiled comments made by individual
Council members relative to proposed changes in the General Plan.
The memoranda of Council members' comments and the Planning Director's
Report are hereby incorporated by this reference as though fully set
forth herein.
Council continued its deliberations with discussion of the Composite
Land Use Map and the various Elements of the General Plan as set
forth in the Planning Director's Report. The following items in addition
to those contained in the November 25 Report were referred to the
Planning Commission for report back to the City Council:
Parks and Recreation Element:
Page 1. The lack of a park designation in the south end of the City.
Composite Land Use Map:
Page 3, Item (6). Move floodplain line back to original position
on property in San Juan Creek immediately northeast of
freeway.
Page 4, Item (16). Mr. Ahern - Recreation/Open Space designation;
size of neighborhood commercial facilities; deletion of open
space designation on Mission Hills Ranch wea.
Council noted that with regard to Item
consideration of a junior college...."
"....consideration of a State college
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(18) the words, ".
should be changed to
or university...."
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Page 4, Item (20). Mr. Heinley - The retention of commercial
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designation on the Huntington property at Del Avion and
Alipaz.
Item (24). Mr. Kinoshita - Agricultural issue and being
caught "in the interim" while the City is trying to
determine precisely how the agricultural lands can be
saved. He also raised the point of the expansion of
agricultural preservation to all Class One soils through-
out the City. It was moved by Councilman Sweeney, seconded
by Councilman Weathers that the agricultural designation
of the properties on Del Obispo owned by Mr. Kinoshita,
Mr. Cook and Mr. Vermeulen be referred to the Planning
Commission. The motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Councilmen Sweeney, Weathers, Heckscher
and Mayor Byrnes
NOES: Councilman Nash
ABSENT: None
Item (25). Mr. Gilfillan - Mission Hills Ranch properties.
Item (26). Mr. McMechan - Rodgers and McGauly property to
be increased to an intensity of two units per acre vice
one unit per acre.
General Plan Volume I:
Overview:
Page 6, Item (1). Change title to read, "Summary of the General
Plan Process."
Introduction:
Page 6, Item (1). Page 1, first paragraph. I see no reason why
Volumes I and II should be two separate documents. Suggest
that in final publication they be combined in one document
for ease of use. Thus, revise wording in first paragaph
and delete pages i -iii and pages 1-3 in current Volume II.
Circulation Element:
Page 7, Item (1). My past support of the move to reduce 6 lane
highways to 4 lane highways has been predicated on the idea
that the right of way planning would allow sufficient width
to include broad medians (available for landscaping), as
well as bike, equestrian and hiking trails adjacent to the
roads. The essential point is to acquire sufficient right
of way to allow the amenities indicated above to be con-
structed at the desire of the citizens. I would not like
to see the above principle violated in an attempt to
"preserve the village atmosphere of San Juan."
Item (2). I am not in favor of widening Camino Capistrano
to four lanes north of Junipero Serra, and would set as a
policy that, until usage or other clear proof demonstrates
the need, no highway should be built more than two lanes wide.
Item (5). Nowhere in Circulation Element do I find any
criteria for avoiding the residential circulation problems
we are now facing in the Alto Capistrano area. I.e., one
tract becoming.an "arterial" for a subsequent tract. This
should be treated and included in Summary Element.
RECESS AND RECONVENE
Council recessed at 8:50 P.M. and reconvened at 9:10 P.M.
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Circulation Element (Continued):
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Page 9, Item (17). Page 12, paragraph 2. Define what is meant by
"full highway segment ultimately needed."
Housing Element:
Page 10, Item (9). Page 18, middle of top paragraph. Is this a
veiled suggestion that the City should not allow any more
housing approvals until after 1977? Clarify.
Poge 13, Item (36). Incorporate thrust of above comments under
"Implementation Measures" section of Housing Element.
Page 28, first paragraph. Delete "or when the developer
provides them in advance of their provision by the public
sector." This assumes that the developer can by-pass or
leap -frog the plans of the public sector. Only when the
public sector's schedule of facilities construction can
accommodate the developer's own schedule, should "advance"
developer provision of facilities be considered. As
currently written, the paragraph places public sector
facilities planning on an equal footing with developer
"advance" construction. Council also recommended that the
word "either" be deleted in the antipenultimate sentence.
Noise Element:
Page 17, Item (10). Page 51-B, top paragraph. If units are allowed
to cluster outside of affected noise area of a parcel or
parcels, we should have a firm policy on what status the
remaining "affected" area shall have. E.g., permanent open
space, project open space, parking lots, etc.
Item (12). It is my understanding that a CNEL of 60 is a
level of noise high enough to interfere with normal speech
or conversation. If this understanding is correct, I am
puzzled why this level should be established as the
threshold beyond which residential construction shall not
be allowed (page 51-B). It should obviously be lower.
Item (13). No demonstration has been made to the City
Council of the actual meaning of dba levels of 45, 55, etc.
How can we therefore approve the Implementation Measures
listed on pages 52 and 53?
Public Safety Element:
Page 19, Item (5). Page 67, 2nd paragraph, line 6. What are the
"existing obstructions to flood flows?" Clarify.
Parks and Recreation Element:
Page 19, Item (1). I am in favor of the central park theme; however,
I'm not sure where this will best be located and certainly
don't feel committed to the Los Rios Area. Council suggested
the words "for example" be added after the reference to the
Los Rios Area.
Page 20, Item (13). Page 75. I would wish to explore the possibility
of increasing the current ratio of seven (7) acres per 1,000
to ten (10) acres per 1,000.
Historical/Archaeological Element:
Page 12, Item (12). Page 86, bottom four paragraphs. Delete first
three words in all four.
Mayor Byrnes declared the Public Hearing closed with the right to
re -open at any time.
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4) �"� RECESS AND RECONVENE
Council recessed to Executive Session at 10:40 P.M. and reconvened
at 11:25 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Council, the meeting
was adjourned at 11:26 P.M. to the next regular meeting date of
Wednesday, December 4, 1974, at 7:00 P.M. in the City Council
Chamber.
Respectfully submitted,
MARY AN�Y°ITANO E , City Clerk
APPROVED:
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