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CHC Minutes-2021-11-23MINUTES November 23, 2021 SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING TELEPHONIC CONFERENCE MEETING ORGANIZATION: Chair Siegel called the Regular and Telephonic Conference Meeting of November 23, 2021, of the Cultural Heritage Commission of the City of San Juan Capistrano to order at 4:30 p.m. ROLL CALL: CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Commissioners Jan Siegel, Ann Ronan, Anna Dickinson, Paul Lopez, and Lorie Porter. COMMISSIONER ABSENT: None. STAFF PRESENT: Sergio Klotz, Assistant Development Services Director Paul Garcia, Associate Planner Agenda items are presented in the originally agendized format for the benefit of the minutes reader but were not necessarily heard in that order. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Siegel led the Pledge of Allegiance. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None. CONSENT CALENDAR: Commission Action: Moved by Commissioner Ronan, seconded by Commissioner Lopez, to approve the consent calendar Items C1 & C2 by a 5-0 vote. C1. MOTION FINDING THAT CONDUCTING TELEPHONIC/VIRTUAL MEETINGS FOR THE REGULAR OPEN SESSION MEETING AS ALLOWED PER ASSEMBLY BILL 361, PROMOTES SOCIAL DISTANCING DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. C2. CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MINUTES – REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 26, 2021, APPROVED AS PRESENTED. ROLL CALL: AYES: COMMISSIONER: Siegel, Dickinson, Lopez, Porter, and Ronan CHC Action Minutes 2 November 23, 2021 NOES: COMMISSIONER: None ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: None ABSTAINED: COMMISSIONER: None PUBLIC HEARINGS: None. NEW BUSINESS: E1. Consideration of the physical and aesthetic compatibility of proposed land use improvements adjacent to the Blas Aguilar Adobe, a structure identified on the City’s Inventory of Historic and Cultural Landmarks and the National Register of Historic Places, in accordance with City Council Policy 603, Section 5. The proposed land use improvements involve the demolition of an existing 11,292 sq. ft. non IHCL listed building and construction of a new 3,879 sq. ft. In-N-Out Burger Drive-Through Restaurant, and related site improvements, on two adjoining lots totaling approximately 1.8 acres at 31791 Del Obispo Street (Assessor Parcel Numbers 124-160-60 & 668-242-12) (Applicant: Cassie Ruiz, In-N-Out Burgers, Inc.)(Project Manager: Paul Garcia, Associate Planner). Paul Garcia provided the staff presentation and responded to questions. Cassie Ruiz, applicant, provided presentation and responded to questions. Shannon Lopez, Architectural Historian and preparer of the Historic Resources Report, responded to questions. Chair Siegel opened the public meeting and Dennis Hogan, Casey Yadon, Cathy Pechstedt, Rob Williams, Laura Freese, Tom Hribar, Evonne Morton, and Domingo Belardes provided public testimony. Commission Action: COMMISSIONER Dickenson made a motion, seconded by COMMISSIONER Ronan, to recommend to the City Council that the proposed land use improvements associated with a new In-N-Out restaurant are of physical and aesthetic compatibility with the Blas Aguilar Adobe, a structure identified on the City’s Inventory of Historic and Cultural Landmarks and the National Register of Historic Places, as described in City Council Policy 603. The motion failed by a 2-3 vote. ROLL CALL: AYES: COMMISSIONER: Ronan and Dickinson NOES: COMMISSIONER: Siegel, Lopez, and Porter RECUSED: COMMISSIONER: None ABSTAINED: COMMISSIONER: None CHC Action Minutes 3 November 23, 2021 Commission Action: COMMISSIONER Porter made a motion, seconded by COMMISSIONER Lopez, to recommend to the City Council that the proposed land use improvements associated with a new In-N-Out restaurant are not of physical and aesthetic compatibility with the Blas Aguilar Adobe, a structure identified on the City’s Inventory of Historic and Cultural Landmarks and the National Register of Historic Places, as described in City Council Policy 603 because the building is too large and incompatible with the surrounding area, the roof line is too modern, and color is not appropriate. The motion passed by a 3-2 vote. ROLL CALL: AYES: COMMISSIONER: Siegel, Lopez, and Porter NOES: COMMISSIONER: Dickenson and Ronan RECUSED: COMMISSIONER: None ABSTAINED: COMMISSIONER: None UNFINISHED BUSINESS: None. COMMISSION/STAFF COMMENTS: None. ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business Chair Siegel adjourned the meeting at 5:58 p.m. to Tuesday, December 21, 2021, at 4:30 p.m. in the City Council Chamber. Approved on December 21, 2021. __________________________________________ Sergio Klotz, Assistant Development Services Director Cultural Heritage Commission Secretary