PC Minutes-2004-03-0932400 PASEO ADELANTO
SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CA 92675
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MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
SAM ALLEVATO
DIANE L BATHGATE
WYATT HART
JOE SOT0
DAVID M SWERDLIN
MINUTES OF THE MEETING
OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MARCH 9,2004
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman Neely at 7:05 p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ROLL CALL:
-_ Commissioners Present: Tim Neely, Chairman
Robert Cardoza
Sheldon Cohen
Gene Ratcliffe
Commissioners Absent: none
Staff Present: William Ramsey, Principal Planner; Omar Sandoval, Deputy City Attorney; Sue
McCullough, Recording Secretary.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of Februarv 10. 2004: Commissioner Cardoza moved approval, seconded by
Commissioner Cohen, of the Minutes of February 10, 2004, and the motion passed
unanimously by a vote of 4-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None
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San Juan Capistrano: Preserving the Past to Eiilzaiice the Fiifui-e
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
1. CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION ESTABLISHING NUMERICAL LIMITS FOR
CALENDAR YEARS 2005-2007 AND A RESIDENTIAL ALLOCATION SCHEDULE FOR
CALENDARYEARS 2004-2007 (TITLE 9. LAND USE CODE. SECTION 9-2.325. GROWTH
MANAG EM ENT) (450-40).
Commissioner Cardoza recused himself from participating in this item.
Written Communications
Staff report dated March 9, 2004.
Staff Dresentation & recommendation
Mr. Ramsey said that after preparation of the agenda item, staff discovered that a
development agreement prepared for SunCal, which originally had been due to expire
approximately two years ago, actually had a tolling provision that extended the term of that
agreement so that the development agreement for Pacific Point SunCal expires in September
2005. Staff is reviewing that to see what effect, if any, it might have on staffs recommendation
on residential allocations.
Mr. Ramsey provided a background on the Growth Management ordinance as an attempt to
create an adequate public facilities ordinance. He summarized the four projects subject to this
ordinance: Glendale Federal, Area C-2; The San Juan Meadows Project which is part of the
Forster Canyon Planned Community; Pacifica San Juan-SunCal Project formerly referred to
as Pacific Point; and the Honeyman Ranch-Lyon Project. Staff recommended that the
Planning Commission continue this item to the March 23, 2004 meeting.
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Commissioner Questions Commissioner Cohen asked if a rollover had been addressed in prior years. Mr. Ramsey said
it probably had been addressed in the past. In cases where allocations had been approved,
but had not been used, it’s likely that project’s had requested those allocations be carried
over. In succeeding years, project developers have requested allocations to start the cycle
again.
Commissioner Cohen asked if the concept of rollover is inconsistent with the City Council
resolution to limit the number at 155. Mr. Ramsey responded no, as long as requested
allocations do not exceed the numerical limit. For example, the allocation requests for 2004,
which also include allocation requests from the prior year, are less than the 155 allocation limit
established by Council for the 2004 calendar year.
Commissioner Cohen asked if both Honeyman Ranch and SunCal have improvements tied
to a certain threshold point of units being built and occupancy permits and that it would be
helpful to have that information included in the next Planning Commission agenda packet. Mr.
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Ramsey said that with issues such as readiness to build, the number of allocations needed,
and required Caltrans approvals, it may be impossible for those projects to use all the
allocations in the periods requested.
Commissioner Ratcliffe referred to the SunCal project, and asked if their situation was unique,
and if other merchant builders were affected. Mr. Ramsey said no, that both areas C t? D of
the Glendale Federal P.C. and Shadow Mountain were both developed by Warmington, a
merchant builder. Mr. Ramsey said Warmington did not raise any issue with the growth
management ordinance and Residential Allocation Schedule.
Commissioner Ratcliffe referred to page 7 of the Agenda Item which states that service
capacity exists with the exception of certain arterial streets, and asked if the developers’
CCFP fund payments are tied to specific road improvements. Mr. Ramsey said no, that the
City determines where the congestion hot spots are in terms of traffic capacity and decides
which improvements are funded by the CCFP.
Public Hearing
Mark Nielsen, 31621 Via Quixote, requested a copy of the report. He said that over the last
3-year period the City Council approved 465 permits and expressed the opinion that the City
cannot support the proposed level of growth.
Ray Poulter, Project Manager, San Juan Meadows Project owned by Advance Group 99SJ
at 22974 El Tor0 Road, Lake Forest, said that with soil stability and the closing of the Forster
Canyon Landfill, that the Meadows project would be ready to mover fonvard in the next year
or two. He objected to a guaranteed rollover on any project to the extent it would limit
allocations for other projects.
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Philip Schwartz, representing Honeyman Ranch, said he had been on staff when the Growth
Management ordinance was adopted. He noted that most of the traffic improvements are paid
for or installed by the developers, and are tied to building permit issuance. Consequently, he
questioned the need for the Residential Allocation Schedule process at this point in time.
Commission Comments
Chairman Neely asked how staff would decide whether or not to set the limit at or below 400
units when the project rating scale is governed by the Municipal Code. Mr. Ramsey said that
the project rating scale was developed administratively by staff. Chairman Neely requested
that the primary objectives of the original ordinance be available at the next meeting. Mr.
Ramsey said staff would provide those, and noted that as part of tract map process,
developers could amend the project design in order to increase the project rating scale score.
Commissioner Ratcliffe noted that the project rating scale awarded points for including
affordable housing, and asked if such units would be exempt from the Residential Allocation
Schedule process. Mr. Ramsey answered yes, they would be exempt.
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Motion
Commissioner Cohen moved, seconded by Commissioner Ratcliffe, to continue this item to
the March 23, 2004 Planning Commission Meeting.
AYES: Commissioners Cohen and Ratcliffe and Chairman Neely
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
RECUSED: Commissioner Cardoza
This motion passed by a vote of 3-0.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
COMMlSSlONlSTAFF COMMENTS
Mr. Ramsey informed the Commission that the City Manager had recommended that
Commissioners attend the Leadership Academy. Chairman Neely reiterated that the Mayor
and the new City Manager emphasized that all Commissioners consider attending the
Leadership Academy.
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Commissioner Cohen said that congratulations were in order for Sam Allevato on his
appointment to the City Council.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at 7:40
p.m. The next regular meeting is scheduled forTuesday, March 23, at 7:OO p.m. in the Council
Chambers.
Res pectfu I I y submitted ,
William Ramsey, AICP, Princi
Secretary
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